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« The Nanotech Revolution | Main | Why Things Don't Fit »

January 31, 2007

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Phillip Huggan

5 years as an estimate for serious in-vitro genetic selection *inventions* is complete crap.
University students and physicians and surgeons would have to be training with the new tools and techniques (all of which don't exist but are surely engineerable *if* desired) today, for the 5 year timeline to hold.

It is easy to dismiss the very real cyber terror attack threat against Traffic systems, sewer systems, water treatment plants, electrical grids, oil-drilling infrastructures, environmental/military/navigation/weather satellite systems sabotage, widespread trade secrets theft and nation security intel being hacked; these real economic and geopolitical threats are losing meme resources to the threat of mutant children in 5 years?!

The threat of mutant children makes my Extinction Essay list, but in the second lowest tier (above proven infinitesimal threats like naturally caused gamma ray bursters). The threat of AI (all software not just the Terminator type) failure makes my 2nd highest tier of extinction threats in terms of likelyhood. The more just-in-time our social systems get, the more likely our multiple reduncies to any essential infrastructure (2007 electircal grids are weakest but will organically grow more redundant soon) will simultaneously be terrorized.

Even a very powerful mutant person like Wolverine only has the war-making ability of a regional militia (like the Sri Lankan separistist terrorists) or a city's police force (say, Boston PD). Flesh is weak. A small flame thrower will kill Wolverine, when human parents are given the opportunity to make him in, say, 50 years or so (even after diamond MNT I think)

Phillip Huggan

Rereading my post it sounds vitrolic. It's not meant to be. I realize he is one of the good guys, but it would make more sense to talk to some medical researchers before making these very public predictions, before making them as if he has been in contact with medical researchers.

I agree cyber attacks are likely. I wouldn't clssify them as an essential system just yet (pimple-faced hackers don't have the finance expertise to bring down our derivatives-based world economies; certainly bond trading may be halted for days in some major markets). Maybe in 10-15 years, the point of inflection may come where the developed world's electrical grids become safer than the (now much more vital) world's 2022 Internet III.

Greg

I found the following quote at the end of the article to be very revealing:

``I had a hacker I know read parts of the draft and make some suggestions, but it came back incomprehensible,'' Clarke said. ``I could have written this for a few thousand people, but I'm hoping for more than that.''

Now the most charitable interpretation (for Clarke) of this would be that, having asked for suggestions, the hacker in question came back with stuff like a 5 page disquisition on the minutiae of how to do a buffer overrun exploit. Even this interpretation gives me pause to wonder. Neal Stephenson managed to do a very good job with a scene in his book "Cryptonomicon" where one of the protagonists logs remotely logs into his computer system right before his computer is about to be seized in a police raid and attempts to cover his tracks. The job of a good author is to render what might at first seem incomprehensible in such a fashion that ordinary reader can follow what is going on without undue effort. A far less charitable possibility is that having read the draft, the hacker came up with a list of "things which couldn't happen this way", explaining why this was the case (and perhaps even offering alternatives). Clarke then decided that fixing these things would be too much trouble and decided to leave things as they were (hence the dismissive comment about a few thousand people). If true, this would be yet another example of one of the classic mistakes made by mainstream authors who try to write a Science Fiction story: underestimating the importance of verisimilitude and how easy it is to lose the feel of verisimilitude. The problem with such works is that the interesting questions that they may raise are often inextricably linked with the utterly implausible way that they treat the topic as a whole. Given the fact that Phillip is dead on with his analysis here:

>>5 years as an estimate for serious in-vitro genetic selection *inventions* is complete crap.
University students and physicians and surgeons would have to be training with the new tools and techniques (all of which don't exist but are surely engineerable *if* desired) today, for the 5 year timeline to hold.<<

I rather suspect that the situation is closer to the second of the interpretations that I described than the first.

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