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October 12, 2004

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Brett Bellmore

I see, as a 501c3, you can't be partisan yourself, but you can make a point of directing us to other partisan organizations? Because, make no mistake about this, the "Election Protection Coalition" IS a partisan organization, for all that it claims to be otherwise. One need only look at the list of coalition partners, to note that they're all left-wing organizations. Or read the literature, which when it cites any problem with elections, is ALWAYS citing something Republicans supposedly did, never some offense Democrats committed.

Come on, if you're going to try to look non-partisan, at least put some effort into it!

Mike Deering

Brett, an organization can be non-partisan and still receive support from partisan groups. I would hope that all legitimate political parties could agree that the objective of achieving a fair election is one that should be pursued. For the world's greatest proponent of democracy to have a national election stolen is a disgrace that I would not want to see repeated.

Brett Bellmore

Mike, yes, it's truth that an organization can be non-partisan, and recieve support from partisan organizations. It's extraordinarilly unlikely that a group which is non-partisan is going to recieve support from only partisan organizations on one side of the divide, though.

But in this case it's not a matter of odds. The "Election Protection Coalition" is only in the business of protecting the election of Democrats from Republicans. You can't kid me on this, I'm too familiar with them. They don't give a damn about stopping Democratic ballot fraud.

And as for national elections being stolen, the Democratic efforts to steal the election failed in 2000.

Brett Bellmore

See why you shouldn't have injected partisan politics into this? ;)

Mike Deering

You are correct. The responsible use of nanotechnology is not a partisan issue. And a political debate in this forum will not accomplish anything toward that goal. Everyone I talk to has already made up their minds about how they are going to vote anyway.

micheal vassar

A plea to Mike and Chris.
Let's leave politics at home here.
We CAN'T influence the outcomes of national elections in a nation of hundreds of millions. It's statistically impossible, do the math.
The only political issues that belong here are the serious analysis of the probability of rational nanotech policies in different countries or under different regimes, discussion of the viability of other countries as research centers, and other issues that relate Directly to good MNT policy. Loose focus and you loose efficacy.

Mike Treder, CRN

First, I'd say you can't extricate politics from the consideration of policies to promote responsible development and use of nanotechnology.

Second, you might be surprised at how much influence and impact a small group of people can have, if they are smart and truly committed.

Third, I will try harder to keep partisanship out of our discussions here; but politics is still highly relevant to CRN's work.

william mccann

HUMAN THOUGHT IS THE NANOASSEMBLER AND WE ARE THE PREY OF OUR OWN THINKING.

Mike Deering

WILLIAM, YOU COULD ULTIMATELY BE PROVEN CORRECT. BUT SOME OF US ARE WORKING TO PREVENT THAT EVENTUALITY. WE COULD USE YOUR HELP.

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